Seeking an MBA – Interview with Atish Jaiswal – 003

Why Consider Pursuing an MBA?

Today I’m bringing you my first interview. It involves a colleague who is seeking an MBA. The topic was mentioned on my blog at Top 10 Reasons to Pursue a Business Degree. This interview should provide additional insights in to the issue.

You may have been expecting an episode addressing mentors, but I decided that I wanted to present this conversation first. The episode about mentors will follow this one.

Today’s episode is a little bit different from those I plan to present in the future. Instead of interviewing an expert on a topic, I’m having a conversation with a family physician who is just beginning his journey to a nonclinical career.

The Proper Way to Pivot – 002

The Process to Follow When Seeking a New Career

In this episode, we explore the proper way to pivot to a nonclinical career. Granted, there may be various ways to make such a change. But there is good evidence that following this process will minimize your risk while optimizing your odds of success.

There are four major phases, some of which can easily overlap. I plan to use this model of the four phases to help organize future episodes of this podcast. These phases definitely follow the steps I took as I transitioned from full-time family physician to hospital chief medical officer. While there is no ONE, this is a model that has been shown to work.


You may notice that they follow the steps outlined in a book written by Jenny Blake called Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next OneIt’s a book I highly recommend, in part because Blake helps assure the reader that taking small, yet effective, steps can get you to that new career or business without risking everything.

Getting Acquainted with Physician NonClinical Careers Podcast – 001

Introduction to Physician NonClinical Careers Podcast

Welcome to the first episode of the Physician NonClinical Careers podcast.

This podcast is an offshoot of this blog. But instead of addressing emerging physician executives exclusively, I’ve designed this podcast to inspire, inform and support doctors looking to pivot to any nonclinical full- or part-time career.

The podcast will include episodes addressing general topics, such as leadership, management, education, negotiation, motivation and self-confidence. I will also talk about specific issues related to pivoting to a career in hospital or medical group administration.

However, I’m certainly not the expert on all nonclinical jobs for physicians, so this podcast will include many interviews with experts in nonclinical medical careers, employers, and physicians who have already completed a pivot to a new career.

In this first short episode, I describe why I started this podcast, a little bit about my background and my goals for the podcast.

Use the Audio Player at the Top of This Post.

I will be posting episodes right here on VITAL Physician Executive. But I encourage you to subscribe on the Apple Podcasting AppStitcher or Google Play.

I also list the ways that you can reach me, including by:

  • email at
  • voice message at my Voice Message Page
  • adding comments at the end of this and future posts
  • commenting in the Apple Podcast App

I’m very interested in hearing from you about a particular expert or nonclinical career.

I really appreciate your support. Thanks for being a loyal VPE reader, and now, Physician NonClinical Careers listener!

Here is a list of resources mentioned in this episode:

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If you’re ready to move on, here is Episode 002: The Proper Way to Pivot.

How to Support Physician NonClinical Careers Podcast Launch

Help Me Create a Powerful Podcast

I’ve witnessed an explosion in interest in physician nonclinical careers over the past few years. Whether because of increasing frustration and burn out, or a desire to “scale” our impact to larger groups of patients, physicians want to expand into new areas.

physician nonclinical careers launch

In order to help support this movement, I am joining a small group of physicians who are creating podcasts to help support our colleagues in this process.

I Need Your Help

I cannot do this alone. Only with your support, can we get the word out and make the launch of Physician NonClinical Careers Podcast a success. The bigger the splash, the better. So, I’ve set up a campaign that needs your support NOW, so that the launch on October 17, 2017 is a success.

How Can You Help?

The best way to help is to click the link below and Support the campaign by sharing it on Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr:


Why Is This So Important to Me?

For over a year, I have been writing a blog addressing leadership, management and productivity. On occasion, I write about nonclinical careers for physicians. I do that because an executive leadership position is just one of many nonclinical careers a physician might consider.

In the process, I’ve come to know many physicians who are frustrated, disillusioned and burned out. While physicians often seek a nonclinical career because of a calling to do so, the disillusionment noted above certainly contributes to the decision to pivot.

physician nonclinical careers burnout

I’m passionate about helping physicians find their true calling. Many of us committed to a medical career long before we fully understood the financial costs and the true nature of the work we’d be doing. When the realization hits that it’s not what we expected, it makes sense to consider an alternate career.

Over the past year, I’ve heard from hundreds of physicians searching for resources to help them make this pivot. There are few resources out there, such as books, coaches, and conferences.

I Want to Contribute

Now I’d like to do my part. So, I’m very excited to be launching my new podcast on Tuesday, October 17 called Physician NonClinical Careers (with John Jurica).

In the podcast, I will post interviews with physicians who have already transitioned successfully into a new career (coaching, medical writing, expert witness, UM chart reviewer, medical advisor, etc.).

I’m starting an online campaign to raise awareness of the launch and I’m asking you to help propel this movement to give physicians more career choices. Click below because it will strengthen our profession and empower our colleagues.


I really appreciate your help getting the word out. Time is short, so don’t delay. I need at least 100 Supporters by Tuesday morning (only 2 days from now) to make this work.

And please suggest topics and recommended guests in the Comments!


Together we can make a change for the better for our colleagues.

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